How to argue with a closed scientist
Workshop session held during the Barcamp in Groningen, 22nd October 2025. Participants were tasked with coming up with arguments against practicing Open Science and then to come up with counter arguments. The original document can be found on the OSC-NL Drive.
Contributors to the initial document
- Bjorn Bartholdy
- Tanya Lee
- Ana Parrón Cabañero
- Santosh Ilamparuthi
- Errol Neo
- Raul Zurita-Milla (University of Twente )
- Nicole Loobach (University of Twente)
- Fleur Praal (Leiden ULib.)
- Roy Hoitink (UU)
- Mercedes Beltran (UU)
- Nina Leach (TUe)
- Signe Glaesel
- Ben Excell (WUR)
- Arthur Thives Mello
Statements and counter-arguments
Click on a statement to expand and see the counter-arguments.
Applying open science principles takes too long
- Counter argument 1: A lot of the invested time is “pre-loaded” to an earlier point in time and if you continously apply them it should not feel like a huge effort at the end (“growing pains” when changing the infrastuctre)
- Connected counter argument: if it prevents problems from occuring, it might actually safe time on the long run
- Counter argument 2: Also, if it takes more time, but the studies are objectively better the time investment should not matter that much; might be good to have an example ready
- Counter argument 3: You can use extra output (e.g., published datasets) as an academic output on your CV
- Counter argument 4: It is part of your work (might not work)
My work/data/idea will get scooped
- Counter argument 1: If any part of your work is open it is actually more difficult to be scooped as they are often time stamped
- Timestamping is not sure-fire. A researcher could scoop you and publish in journal X. Journal X may not care about your timestamp and refuse to retract. If you then try to publish in journal Y, journal Y may say “this is already published in journal X”. Suggested response to this: Journal or university lawyers can help you get scooping articles retracted if you can prove it, and time stamps will help with that.
- You could still share meta-data/information about what data you have. Would still be useful to researchers to avoid double-work, and they could contact you to ask for specific data, which would make reuse at least possible in principle.
- You could share data after you have published. If you share data bit by bit over multiple papers, resources like DANS can help you link data across multiple projects together.
It was a lot of time and effort to collect my data!
Contributions welcome!It takes too much effort
- Sometimes it is not true: Preregistration just moves the effort on the timeline (prior to data collection instead of after)
- Sometimes it is true:
- “Yes you are right, and it should not be the case” —> we should make it more easy and efficient;
- “You are saving time for later” does not always hold, but it might be worth it to take this extra time now (e.g. for reuse later)
- It is beneficial for the community
- You can get help (data stewards, consultants)
- Question back: “How can I help you?”
- Advocate for ‘slow science’ (DORA: quality over quantity)
too much work / extra bureaucracy
Contributions welcome!IP protection / sensitive data
Contributions welcome!Expensive
Contributions welcome!Not financially sustainable
Contributions welcome!Open education - business of education suffers
- sustainability - tuition from students, not education/learning materials
- selling courses/materials
- materials - IP & copyrights
- quality questioned
- to convince - carrot & stick; top & bottom
- open publication
Potentially misinterpreted
Vriend of Vijand Podcast (https://www.nporadio1.nl/podcasts/vriend-of-vijand): Sharing data is dangerous - this is how Pakistan got the nuclear bomb.
- Results can be a harm to society if they come out and misuse.
- Ethical issue: If there is such risk should the initial research be even done? or should you keep the research data closed due to the risk of misuse?
- Should you even publish on the data at all if it poses such a risk?
- Nothing is black or white, some bad things can happen but several good things can also happen (such us in the case of open Covid data).
- in the DMP there is a question of reasons not to publish data, point at which it could be considered (perhaps in a committee) whether it should be published.
Findings will be misinterpreted or taken out of context when they're openly available. They can only be understood by peers.
Contributions welcome!Why would my data be interesting to anyone?
Contributions welcome!This won’t get me promoted
The costs: you need money to keep OS publishing going (website, editing, DOIs)
- You shouldn’t publish in ‘pay to publish’ journals
- There are open source publishing templates, editors can be funded through their unis
I can’t share my data because of privacy concerns
Contributions welcome!Industry partners want it closed for Intellectual Property
Contributions welcome!Costs too much time and money and we don’t have that
Contributions welcome!If I openly share my data/code, others (with better resources) might use it for commercial benefit (even with CC BY-NC)
Contributions welcome!Fear of making public mistakes and there being consequences
Contributions welcome!OS is too big, I have to do everything
checklist idea of what to do for OSNoone will re-use it anyways - No benefit for struggling sharing openly
- Two extremes of either doing everything of OS or if too difficult - do nothing at all
- Opportunities naming instead of the checklist “Am I open enough?”
- Communicate practical examples of why OS is good for your research
- How to protect individual information in shared data? – Work on access conditions, i.e. not completely open, but already some info is open (e.g. metadata)
- Open enough to prevent too many requests for closed data
- Requests about correctness of entries rather than reuse —> an ideal of reusable OS is still in an unforeseeable future
It is a lot of effort
- The first time it is, then you get used to it.
- Learning something new is always an effort.
- Think about your values, is it worth it? It gets easier.
- OS is about making conscious decisions, no checklist.
Time constraints (how to learn Open Science tools)
- Its TRUE, but is the institution support you?
- Where are your priorities: conscious decisions to use the most convenient
- Most valued by your institution
- Things like learning RStudio
- What are the quick wins for making your data open or fair?
- Institutionalized decisions:
- Current code of conduct: institutions fair data
- To offer support and the tools the offer
- ABOUT PRIORITIES
Open Access publishing != quality
Contributions welcome!(Some of) Open Science is not peer-reviewed
Contributions welcome!It differs when we talk about the Global and International level
Contributions welcome!Open science is still replicating the same unequal power structures as closed science
you have to select one anyway so select the less evil onethe value of equity in OS infrastructures (os preprint infrastructures are not accessible for everyone in the world, because of infrastructural issues (internet speed)).